Sub
Tropical Zones
From: Darrell Martin
blue.boy@datastar.net
Sent: 23 August 1999 20:58
Subject: RE: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Dear Samba Prabhu;
I would very much be interested in learning more about this ipip ipil I
think you called it. We are sub tropical here in Miss and I personally like
the jersey cows the best. They aren't so large and they seem to be more
adapted to heat. Plus they generally give higher quality milk, butter fat
etc.
YS
Dvibhuja Das
From: Samba (das) SDG (Mauritius)
Samba.SDG@bbt.se
Sent: 28 August 1999 08:38
Subject: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Dear Prabhus.
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Can anyone recommend the best breeds (European or Indian) for health, bull
calf trainability and milk production in tropical to sub tropical zones?
Has anyone experience of feeding cows with Leucaena (Ipil-ipil) foliage?
Apparently it is an excellent forage, fast growing, high in nutrition, and
promotes excellent milk yields and quality.
Any help would be appreciated.
Your Servant
Samba das
From: Rohita (Dasa) ACBSP (New Talavan MS - USA)
talavan@com.org
Sent: 29 August 1999 19:10
Subject: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Can anyone recommend the best breeds (European or Indian) for health,
bull calf trainability and milk production in tropical to sub tropical
zones?
European cows (B. taurus) come from cold climates although there are breeds
that are adapted to the hotter climes, i.e. West Africa. But when you get
into these areas that are localized diseases which many outside breeds have
little resistance to. In West Africa it is trypanosomiasis a group of
diseases more commonly called sleeping sickness. Jerseys and other European
breeds taken to West Africa usually succumb to these diseases. However there
are local breeds that are also Taurean that are resistant to these illness.
1. So, the limiting factor is are their diseases that are very common in the
area in question?
2. The next question is their native breeds in the area? Native meaning a
breed that has been in the locality for 4 or 5 hundred years. It is always
better to choose from these animals than importing into the area another
breed that usually not adapted to local conditions.
3. Do the local disease resistant breeds produce enough milk for your needs?
Are interested in producing enough for yourself and a few friends or are you
wanting to support the family on many milk sales? For example one
trypanosome-tolerant breed is the N'Dama of Guinea. They produce 2 to 3
litres per day (just under a gallon) for about eight months. For a family
this is alright but commercially not so good.
The America's and Australia are two large geographical areas that do not
have local breeds. Cows are recent arrivals so the above does not matter as
much because there is no breed that is really adapted. Except in America the
Longhorn and the Piney Woods both these breeds are about 500 years old and
well adapted to the southern part of the USA. They however are not seen as
dairy animals though they do produce milk in similar quantities to the
N'Dama mentioned above. It should also be noted that most Americans are use
to store bought milk which is mainly from Holsteins (Freisland) which is low
in butter fat (3.64%) and proteins (3.9%). The above mentioned breeds,
N'Dama, Longhorn and Piney Woods all produce milk that is much higher in
fats.
I would advise that you look on Mauritius for your cows talk to the locals
to find out who has the best cows in your area. Then get from him. Most
likely they are Sanga-type animals from East Africa probably with some
Indian blood. They are probably not large producers, but by being selective
in your foundation stock and using improved farming methods to increase the
quality of your feed and fertility of the land, great improvements can be
made over local production. When buying animals you should engage the skill
of an experienced cowherd to guide your choice
From: Rohita (Dasa) ACBSP (New Talavan MS - USA)
talavan@com.org
Sent: 29 August 1999 00:17
Subject: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Has anyone experience of feeding cows with Leucaena (Ipil-ipil)
foliage?
Apparently it is an excellent forage, fast growing, high in nutrition, and
promotes excellent milk yields and quality.
Any help would be appreciated.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~dops0024
is a link to LeucaenaNET a source for additional contacts to talk to people
who are growing it.
If you g to the search engine on yahoo.com you'll get pages of stuff if you
type in leucaena.
ys,
Rohita dasa
From: Rohita (Dasa) ACBSP (New Talavan MS - USA)
talavan@com.org
Sent: 29 August 1999 18:25
Subject: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Has anyone experience of feeding cows with Leucaena (Ipil-ipil)
foliage? Apparently it is an excellent forage, fast growing, high in
nutrition, and promotes excellent milk yields and quality.
Any help would be appreciated.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~dops0024
is a link to LeucaenaNET a source for additional contacts to talk to people
who are growing it.
http://www.svpa.hawaii.edu/ansc/News/96winter/leucaena.htm
http://www.winrock.org/forestry/factpub/FODDER.HTM
http://www.mcc.aggie.cmu.ac.th/graduate/thesis/prod28.html
http://www.ifas.ufl.edu/~ona/or5-96.html informative about growing
methods, is very short.
http://www.xc.org/echo/aztext/azcompcb.htm a comparison chart to other
tropical forage plants
http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/dpinotes/pastures/pastures.html gives pest
management details about four pests of Leucaena
If you have time there is an extensive list of sites on yahoo.com search
engine the above is a sampling for that engine.
Ys, Rohita dasa
From: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@bbt.se
Sent: 29 August 1999 12:01
Subject: Re: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Can anyone reccomend the best breeds (European or
Indian) for health, bull calf trainability and milk production in tropical
to sub tropical zones?
The general principle is to stick with the local heritage breeds, if they
are still available. Breeds that were used in your area, or areas of similar
environmental factors, 100 years ago. Talking to local elders can be useful.
From: Nistula (das) ACBSP (Sri Pundarik Dham -
Bangladesh) Nistula.ACBSP@bbt.se
Sent: 30 August 1999 14:47
Subject: Re: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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Samba's problem is that before the colonial era, when France and England
fought over posession of Maritius, it was a small un-inhabited island and
the only heritage breeds were some now extinct birds.
Can anyone reccomend the best breeds (European or Indian) for health,
bull calf trainability and milk production in tropical to sub tropical
zones?
The general principle is to stick with the local heritage breeds, if they
are still available. Breeds that were used in your area, or areas of
similar environmental factors, 100 years ago. Talking to local elders can
be useful.
From: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@bbt.se
Sent: 29 August 1999 12:17
Subject: Re: Cows in sub tropical zones.
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I would very much be interested in learning more about this ipip ipil
I think you called it. We are sub tropical here in Miss and I personally
like the jersey cows the best. They aren't so large and they seem to be
more adapted to heat. Plus they generally give higher quality milk,
butter fat etc.
The bulls have a reputation for being nasty.
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