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SOUR HAY

From: (Bhaktin) Silvia Tahvanainen SKS (Almvik - S) Silvia.Tahvanainen.SKS@bbt.se 
Sent: 09 May 1999 11:25
Subject: Sour hey

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How much sour hey is it recommended to give the cows, in order to get non-sour milk?
My understanding is that the milk will get a slight sour taste if the cows eat too much sour hey, isn't it?
In the school where I study there are cows on an Antroposofic farm just by, and sometimes the milk which I bye from the farm tastes sour, could that be the reason?
Thankful fore answer.
Y.S Bhn. Silvia

From: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA) Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@bbt.se 
Sent: 16 May 1999 02:43
Subject: Re: Sour hey

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I've been waiting to hear the answer to this. Anybody know? I know if the cows get into wild onions, the milk tastes oniony.



How much sour hey is it recommended to give the cows, in order to get non-sour milk?
My understanding is that the milk will get a slight sour taste if the cows eat too much sour hey, isn't it?
In the school where I study there are cows on an Antroposofic farm just by, and sometimes the milk which I bye from the farm tastes sour, could that be the reason?

From: Rohita (Dasa) ACBSP (New Talavan MS - USA) talavan@com.org 
Sent: 17 May 1999 00:38
Subject: Re: Sour hey

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How much sour hey is it recommended to give the cows, in order to get non-sour milk?
My understanding is that the milk will get a slight sour taste if the cows eat too much sour hey, isn't it?
In the school where I study there are cows on an Antroposofic farm just by, and sometimes the milk which I bye from the farm tastes sour, could that be the reason?
Thankful fore answer.
Y.S Bhn. Silvia



Comment:
Dear Bhaktin Silvia:
Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada.

There is no relationship between the cow drinking whey and the milk tasting sour. When the whey is consumed by the cow it enters into her stomach which has a sour nature. She is a walking fermentation plant, green plant material is being broken down by the activity of bacteria present in her stomach. Then her circulatory/mammalary system removes the needed nutrients to nourish her body and the produce of her womb along with all who consume her milk.

However, it may have an effect on her own behavior, just as when she is feed solely on silage without the access to grass in its natural state (pasture) or in its dried state (hay). She will be drunk.

Sour tasting milk comes from milk being improperly stored or put into containers that are improperly cleaned. Either milk must be heated immediately on coming from the cow then used or chilled then heated before consumption. Prolonged storage (more than 5 hours) at room temperature will lead to sour milk.
Ys,
Rohita dasa

From: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) Hare.Krsna.dasi@bbt.se 
Sent: 17 May 1999 17:10
Subject: Re: Sour hey

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How much sour hey is it recommended to give the cows, in order to get non-sour milk?
My understanding is that the milk will get a slight sour taste if the cows eat too much sour hey, isn't it?
In the school where I study there are cows on an Antroposofic farm just by, and sometimes the milk which I bye from the farm tastes sour, could that be the reason?
Thankful fore answer.




Rohita responded:

...Sour tasting milk comes from milk being improperly stored or put into containers that are improperly cleaned. Either milk must be heated immediately on coming from the cow then used or chilled then heated before consumption. Prolonged storage (more than 5 hours) at room temperature will lead to sour milk.
 


Hare Krsna dasi comment:

Another thing to remember is that since this is an international conference it is possible that Silvia prabhu is using the word "sour" in a different sense that we understand it in North America and the UK. To us, "sour" has a narrow meaning, something that tastes like lemon or plain yoghurt. For example, we would not say that onion-flavored milk is "sour," but we might say that it is "pungent."

But, in another country, they might use the word "sour" just to mean "bad tasting." If that is the case, that the milk does not taste good, then the problem could be that the cow has mastitis.

Do you use a screened strip-cup before you milk the cow, so that you can detect any long-fatty "threads" which would indicate mastitis or other disease? Especially late in the lactation, the cow might get mastitis. This would cause bad flavor. Especially if it is early in the lactation, the cow needs to be treated for that by increasing the regularity of the milking schedule and being careful to wash the udder before milking and clean the teats again immediately after milking. We used to use iodine teat dip after milking to prevent mastitis -- what do cowherds use now?

your servant,

Hare Krsna dasi

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