http://www.silverlink.net/~timer/soapallveg.html
Yours,
Vijay S. Pai
From: Noelene Hawkins
niscala99@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 July 1999 01:22
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Mrs. Garland explained that soap is made by
combining two ingredients: lye and fat. For lye, she simply uses "Red
Devil Drain Cleaner." I believe that old timers used to obtain lye by
straining boiling water through wood ashes, but I'm not positive.
Lye is the alkaline liquid, which can be obtained by straining water off
the mixture of ash and water- this liquid is alkaline. Exactly the
proportions have to be experimented with, and this is being done here, as
we have experimented with one formula and it didn't work, now we're
researching so we don't waste too much ash, oil, and time. Ash would be so
much better, if we can figure out a reliable recipe, because it doesn't
cost anything, and is a natural by-product of self-sufficient farming
communities. And if ash works, then why not cow dung ash? By that time you
could just about write a book called " 101 Uses of Cow Dung". Dung is Gold
Mine came pretty close!
From: Noelene Hawkins
niscala99@hotmail.com
Sent: 26 July 1999 01:07
Subject: Re: Soap-making
[Text 2505051 from COM]
My guess would be you might have trouble with
butter as it contains other things besides fat. Ghee would probably work
better than butter, as it is a true fat. I don't know if the fact that
ghee is a shorter chained fat then tallow or vegetable oils would make a
difference.
When I was in New Zealand, there was a devotee
there, making soap from left-over ghee- you know after you've put the
pakoras etc. to drain- what collects there in the pot underneath, because
of course, you never have to throw out ghee, just so long as you don't
burn it. So ghee is definitely OK.
- Niscala.
From: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@bbt.se
Sent: 26 July 1999 15:41
Subject: Re: Soap-making
[Text 2506800 from COM]
When I was in New Zealand, there was a devotee
there, making soap from left-over ghee- you know after you've put the
pakoras etc. to drain- what collects there in the pot underneath,
because of course, you never have to throw out ghee, just so long as you
don't burn it.So ghee is definitely OK.
- Niscala.
Since the cholesterol in ghee starts to oxidize
after about 30 minutes at high temperatures, that is probably the best use
for ghee that has been used for deep frying.
From: Nistula (das) ACBSP (Sri Pundarik Dham -
Bangladesh) Nistula.ACBSP@bbt.se
Sent: 26 July 1999 09:59
Subject: Re: soap and digm
[Text 2505909 from COM]
Dear Niscala,
DIGM WEB PAGES
No, it would have cost me too much. Chaya devi, said she would, though.
You could always use those free sites such as
geocities or homestead...getting all the charts into html tables might be
a little hassle though...Embarrassingly, after I told you that all the
charts were corrected, I can't find the file, and have messed up the
original so much it's difficult to discern the headings. Anyway, I'm not
so much into the stats, more interested in the actual text, luckily...
WOOD ASH SOAP
Gopinatha Acarya. No, what we actually need is a RECIPE, using ash!
Otherwise, there is so many soap recipes! (but all require purchased
ingredients)
I'm not very web-wise nor can afford much time, but
I did find some pages that may help us along, the last one being the
better one...
http://waltonfeed.com/old/soaphome.html
Walton Feed: The Soap Making Home Page- this has some 'old time' recipes
using non-veg sources of course...
http://www.sappohill.com/soaplist.htm
Sappo Hill: A History of Soapmaking through the ages - A short history of
old American soap making, not so practical, mostly to promote their own
homemade soaps...
http://www.alcasoft.com/soapfact/history.html
The Soap Factory - Colonial Soap Making- ditto...
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paul_norman_3/08000101.htm
Soap Making: Traditional Methods Lye Rain Water Wood Ash...Part of a
Christian evangelist site and has a detailed section on rendering animal
fat, but does give tables for vegetable sources, and the section on wood
ash extraction is fairly comprehensive with (funky) diagrams galore.
Although it was traditionally done a little differently over here (earthen
vats vs. barrels, etc.), the principles seem very similar.
ys, nistula dasa
From: Samba (das) SDG (Mauritius)
Samba.SDG@bbt.se
Sent: 29 July 1999 07:02
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Exactly the proportions have to be experimented
with, and this is being done here, as we have experimented with one
formula and it didn't work, now we're researching so we don't waste too
much ash, oil, and time. Ash would be so much better, if we can figure
out a reliable recipe, because it doesn't cost anything, and is a
natural by-product of self-sufficient farming communities. And if ash
works, then why not cow dung ash?
Please let us know the results.
From: Vijay Sadananda Pai
vijaypai@ece.rice.edu
Sent: 04 August 1999 20:14
Subject: Re: Soap-making
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Haribol. Sorry for not responding for so long.
Here's a web page that gives more soap recipes, including a recipe for lye
water. This is run by a group called the Society for Creative Anachronism,
which consists of people who do things in an old-fashioned way just for
fun:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/rialto/Soapmakng-CMA-art.html
Here's some recipes used by Christian missionaries in the Far East:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paul_norman_3/00frames.htm
(just click on soap-making in the left-hand frame)
The Christian page also has flow charts and detailed instructions and
diagrams.
Yours,
Vijay S. Pai
YS
From: Noelene Hawkins
niscala99@hotmail.com
Sent: 05 August 1999 06:07
Subject: Re: Soap-making
[Text 2532247 from COM]
Haribol. Sorry for not responding for so long.
Here's a web page that gives more soap recipes, including a recipe for
lye water. This is run by a group called the Society for Creative
Anachronism, which consists of people who do things in an old-fashioned
way just for fun:
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/rialto/Soapmakng-CMA-art.html
Here's some recipes used by Christian missionaries in the Far East:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paul_norman_3/00frames.htm
The recipe for soap (on this last website) using
wood ash lye DOES NOT WORK (but with adjustments to proportions, it just
might)
ys, niscala
From: Samba (das) SDG (Mauritius)
Samba.SDG@bbt.se
Sent: 06 August 1999 07:46
Subject: Re: Soap-making
[Text 2534924 from COM]
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/rialto/Soapmakng-CMA-art.html
Here's some recipes used by Christian missionaries in the Far East:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paul_norman_3/00frames.htm
I just tried them out, and printed up all 28 or so
pages!. Excellent sources, thanks.
From: Noelene Hawkins
niscala99@hotmail.com
Sent: 07 August 1999 07:56
Subject: Re: Soap-making
[Text 2537266 from COM]
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/rialto/Soapmakng-CMA-art.html
Here's some recipes used by Christian missionaries in the Far East:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/paul_norman_3/00frames.htm
I just tried them out, and printed up all 28 or so pages!. Excellent
sources, thanks.
Did you find an ash-based recipe that works???($60 million question)
