ENVIRONMENT

From: Ram Prasad (Dasa) (?) ramprasad@com.org 
Sent: 18 January 2000 22:57
Subject: environment

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it seems to me that cow protection is earth protection in that the earth takes the form of the cow.

are we making the effort to contact the environmental groups that have a lot more resources to explain how the happiness of the cow and bull is reflected upon human society?

if we are, who is making the presentation? what is the content, format, and tone of the presentation? whom are we approaching?

if we are not, i suggest that we start. when we have such a brilliant solution to humanity's perpetual suffering, it's nice to share.

rpd

From: Noelene Hawkins niscala99@hotmail.com 
Sent: 19 January 2000 01:29
Subject: Re: environment

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it seems to me that cow protection is earth protection in that the earth takes the form of the cow.

are we making the effort to contact the environmental groups that have a lot more resources to explain how the happiness of the cow and bull is reflected upon human society?

if we are, who is making the presentation?

I don't know if its been thought of yet, but the booklet, Dung is Gold Mine is EXCELLENT to "explain how the happiness of the cow and bull is reflected upon human society" Chockers full of statistics how cow slaughter has led to intense human suffering, and degradation of the environment, and society. Practically all ills can be traced back to it. Its a brilliant expose, we should broadly propagate.
- niscala

From: Ram Prasad (Dasa) (?) ramprasad@com.org 
Sent: 20 January 2000 07:54
Subject: Re: environment

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Dear Hare Krishna Dasi:

You amaze me. So brilliant yet you can't see your own light. In the complete darkness of cow slaughter, you are a very bright woman. 

"Krishna can not be satisfied where cow protection is lacking."--Srila Prabhupada.

We are all captivated by flickering lights exactly as a doe is frightened by the headlights of an oncoming car. In our bewilderment, the machinations of Kali-yuga are gearing up for our slaughter.

The fate of the cow and our fate are one. If some leaders think not, then they are not the cowherd boys whom I trust to take me home out of this horrible slaughterhouse.

Your articles have inspired me. Now I'm an inspired city boy. I understand the principle of cow protection--of mercy, and I want some.

I also understand exploitation--as I have eaten the earthen cow before it was transformed into food. If we as a society continue to exploit the daughters and not care for the mothers, then will we not be karmically bound? GBC man: "We distributed 4 billion books." Krishna: "Did you protect any cows?" GBC man: "No." Krishna: "Not one?" GBC man: "Well, not in my zone." Krishna: "I guess they didn't read Srila Prabhupada's books." GBC man: "We told 'em not to worry about the cow, that the only instructions that they had to follow were 1. the GBC is the ultimate managing authority and 2. distribute books, give the money to the BBT, and don't ask what happens to it and 3. there's no need to improve on anything that Shrila Prabhupada set up.

Uh oh, I'm being negative. Of course, the greatest negative is death, and that's what the cows are facing, and that's what we're facing. Here's my challenge: "I will not eat dairy products from any cows that aren't protected."

Several years ago, His Holiness B.H. Mangal Maharaja (before ISKCON disinvited him to their temples), a lifelong brahmacari (he was 57 at the time), told me that grains and cheese carry consciousness. I just recalled this fact years after he made the statement because we don't eat karmi grains--so why should we eat karmi cheese? Certainly we don't want that karma.

Thank you very much for your noble work in protecting the cow, and I assure you, it is not for naught. In the right light, cow protection will look good, and that's what we're selling, cow protection itself, as the cure for karma.

Let's put cow protection in the right light--as you have been doing. Your articles are excellent, and I'd like to compile some of the information that you have with some of the information that other devotees have to make a first-class presentation.

rpd

From: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA) Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@bbt.se 
Sent: 20 January 2000 18:29
Subject: Re: environment

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Uh oh, I'm being negative. Of course, the greatest negative is death, and that's what the cows are facing, and that's what we're facing. Here's my challenge: "I will not eat dairy products from any cows that aren't protected."

When you get hungery, come visit NV. There is not enough for eveyone, so I do buy karmi milk, but the yoghurt I eat every day comes from a protected cow. I could introduce you to her. The temple's milk is all from protected cows (maybe not during festivals). So you could at least get a taste.

From: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) Hare.Krsna.dasi@bbt.se 
Sent: 21 January 2000 00:50
Subject: Re: environment

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You amaze me. So brilliant yet you can't see your own light. In the complete darkness of cow slaughter, you are a very bright woman.

Thank you for your very kind comments. If they were honest, Balabhadra and Chaya could explain to you that I'm just a bag of wind. Just a wannabe. But, I have never forgotten those few years of taking care of the cows at Gita-nagari. It definitely made me a better person. It softened my heart to make me a better devotee. And, I'm positive that if we could somehow or other build self-sufficient communities with excellent training for city boys such as yourself, and also city girls, and with many small-scale, protected farms, people would become Krsna conscious very quickly and would very quickly become very
happy and peaceful.

I have a brain. I now admit that, and I thank Krsna for that. It helps me to train our son Asto. Wait til you see him in a couple years. He's seventeen now. An up-coming ksatriya. So I have to learn all about economics and politics.

BUT-- what if we already had the varnasrama society I'm fighting for. What could a woman with a brain do then? I know what I would do. I would have the most fun in the world. I'd do what I used to do at Gita-nagari. I'd work with other women
to help organize great festivals for the Deities, to help plan and devise beautiful outfits for them. I'd devise gardening and canning plans. And just for transcendental pleasure I would take care of Krsna's cows. That would be great. I wish we could all live like that.

 

"Krishna can not be satisfied where cow protection is lacking."--Srila Prabhupada.

We are all captivated by flickering lights exactly as a doe is frightened by the headlights of an oncoming car. In our bewilderment, the machinations of Kali-yuga are gearing up for our slaughter.

The fate of the cow and our fate are one. If some leaders think not, then they are not the cowherd boys whom I trust to take me home out of this horrible slaughterhouse.

Your articles have inspired me. Now I'm an inspired city boy. I understand the principle of cow protection--of mercy, and I want some.

 

As a mother, I pray that you get it. If you get a chance to care for Krsna's cows, you will become incredibly happy.
 

I also understand exploitation--as I have eaten the earthen cow before it was transformed into food. If we as a society continue to exploit the daughters and not care for the mothers, then will we not be karmically bound? GBC man: "We distributed 4 billion books." Krishna: "Did you protect any cows?" GBC man: "No." Krishna: "Not one?" GBC man: "Well, not in my zone." Krishna: "I guess they didn't read Srila Prabhupada's books." GBC man: "We told 'em not
to worry about the cow, that the only instructions that they had to follow were 1. the GBC is the ultimate managing authority and 2. distribute books, give the money to the BBT, and don't ask what happens to it and 3. there's no need to improve on anything that Shrila Prabhupada set up.

Uh oh, I'm being negative. Of course, the greatest negative is death, and that's what the cows are facing, and that's what we're facing. Here's my challenge: "I will not eat dairy products from any cows that aren't protected."

Several years ago, His Holiness B.H. Mangal Maharaja (before ISKCON disinvited him to their temples), a lifelong brahmacari (he was 57 at the time), told me that grains and cheese carry consciousness. I just recalled this fact years after he made the statement because we don't eat karmi grains--so why should we eat karmi cheese? Certainly we don't want that karma.

Thank you very much for your noble work in protecting the cow, and I assure you, it is not for naught. In the right light, cow protection will look good, and that's what we're selling, cow protection itself, as the cure for karma.

Let's put cow protection in the right light--as you have been doing. Your articles are excellent, and I'd like to compile some of the information that you have with some of the information that other devotees have to make a first-class presentation.

rpd